LS has a moderate penalty. GS and Hally have a major hide penalty. Carrying corpses doesn't make it any easier to hide either.
This guide assumes 19 agil gives no bonus. 20+ agil gives a small bonus to hide for each point. It also assumes you are of the thief class.
++ You need more than the amount shown
--There was more than enough skill or agil to hide
?? Not yet tested / verified, though based on similar weapons you should be able to get a general idea.
Note: Not charging / Non-PSI lairs are difficult to gauge without on-hex hiding numbers and an exact formula, as such these will only be estimates.
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Roc
0 Hex:
Bare Handed 16 Skill, 25 agil?
Shortbow 16 Skill, 25 agil?
Crossbow 16 Skill, 25 agil?
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 Skill, 24 agil
Shortbow 15 Skill, 24 agil
Crossbow 15 Skill, 24 agil
Mace ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Staff ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Longbow ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Axe ??
LS ++ Skill 15, 25 agil
Two-Handed ++ Skill 15, 25 agil
Polearm ++ Skill 15, 25 agil
2 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 Skill
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace 15 Skill, 19 agil
Staff 15 Skill, 19 agil
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS 15 Skill, 23 agil
Two-Handed 15 Skill, 24 agil
Polearm ??
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Minotaur
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 skill, 25 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Mace ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Staff ??
Longbow ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 skill
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace 15 skill, 19 agil
Staff 15 skill, 19 agil
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS 15 skill, 23 agil
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
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Griffy
0 Hex:
Bare Handed 16, 25+ (Very close)
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 hex:
Bare Handed 15 Skill, 22 agil
Staff 15 Skill, 24 agil
Mace ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Longbow ??
2 hex:
Bare Handed 15 Skill
LS 15 Skill, 19 agil
Staff 15 Skill 25 agil
Mace ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ++ 15 Skill, 25 agil
Polearm ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Longbow 15 Skill, 19 agil
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RD (Different than FS RD)
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed Skill 16, 25 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 skill
Shortbow ??
Crossbow 15 skill
Mace ??
Staff 15 skill
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS 15 Skill, 24 agil
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
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FS RD
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed Skill 16, 25 agil++
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed Skill 16, 25 agil--
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
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SD
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 skill, 19 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow 15 Skill, 19 agil
Mace 15 Skill, 19 agil
Staff 15 Skill, 19 agil
Longbow 15 skill, 24 agil
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
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BD:
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Longbow ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed skill 16, 25 agil++
Mace ??
Staff ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Longbow ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed 15 Skill 19 agil
Mace 15 Skill 25 agil
Staff 15 Skill 25 agil
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Longbow ??
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Levi
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
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Lich 1
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed Skill 15, 23 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow Skill 15, 23 agil
Mace ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Staff ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed Skill 15, 19 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow Skill 15, 19 agil
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS Skill 15, 21 agil
Two-Handed Skill 15, 24 agil
Polearm ??
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Baskie
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed --Skill 15, 19 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff Skill 15, 25 agil
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Two-Handed ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Polearm ++Skill 15, 25 agil
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HG
0 Hex:
Bare Handed ??
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
1 Hex:
Bare Handed ++Skill 15, 25 agil (So close, yet so one shotted..)
Shortbow ??
Crossbow ??
Mace ??
Staff ??
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ??
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
2 Hex:
Bare Handed --Skill 15, 19 agil
Shortbow ??
Crossbow --Skill 15, 19 agil
Mace --Skill 15, 19 agil
Staff --Skill 15, 19 agil
Longbow ??
Axe ??
LS ++Skill 15, 25 agil
Two-Handed ??
Polearm ??
15/25 bare and fire plains RD saw straight through me @ 4 hex.
16/25 @ 2+ still cant hide from fire plains RD... staying away from mama until I can..
Levi skill 16, 25 agil - 2 hex.
To be added later
Fire Giant
N1 Goblin
N2 Lizard King
N3 Mummy
3.5 Ogre
3.5 Spider Queen
3.5 Ghost
Naga
M4 Stunner
M4 Tengu
M4 Ninja
M4 Golem
Slicer
Smasher
Cloud Giant
Guardians
Mama Naga
Reggie
Wardens
Vamps
Levi
Mama
King Mino
Chipper
Bresh
Uther
Slith
Hag
Liches
SOB