Fun to the game ? :)

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How about bringing Fun back into the Game, People Have mentioned This before, But Brad, All you have focused on is NL NL NL , When most people join the game wont even see that stage Because They Wont waste there time Standing in N-5 or So on Killing. For hours on end. Because that is all this game is In nork and Cob, You Kill a Certain Spot/Group. And you level, Wheres the Quests , Atleast u tried to bring some back into Nork, Well you should see i said "Tried" ... The quests are lame. Is there Quests in the Game That will take u longer than 2 mins to Complete , Like a Chain Quest of Some sort, Example ..Kill 2 orcs..Return them to that NPC. He will Give you another story on how the orcs are getting Help from the Trolls...Kill 2 trolls then return...The Trolls Have found A new Way of casting Magic... Retreive There Stone of Magic. So on... The point is, The Game At a low level is Boring, There is no Fun activities to do, All there is for u to do is hunt things. Sounds like Fun!!! :D Sure IS!! .. *wink wink*.. Is there even a good story line behind Drakkar Anymore, Cob is great untill u have done everything. then theres nothing left to do either, no quests that keep u occuiped. Back to the Quest Part. THE QUEST's You have created are BORING, THERE is NO fun in them, NO point in DOING them You Wont Gain, Money or Even Experience. Most Players will do quests for experience. Start Listening to the Community. And stop looking at NL for a change. When was the last time somthing major was created in Cob. When was the last time somthing Major was created in nork . Apart from the 2 lairs, They were great for the levels that could do it. Change things Brad, And people might play the game, It LACKS the FUN .! .

You have Lost my Membership , 23 months of Gold acess.. I dont even know why i stayed so long on Gold, i got no benefits after 12.
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drak hasnt been fun since ien....
least not for me, and you think its boring at low lvls, wait till u get 55+
then you can say its boring :D
till then you aint tasted the boringness of brad'sville :sarc

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Brad is one person, not an army of programmers as everyone seems to think for some reason. When us nl kiddies tell him, NL has issues, FIX THEM!, he himself has to do all the coding to change things. So, if while the NL player backlash is occuring, the non-nl players want to join in on the "drak sucks" train then what is he supposed to do? Drop the work hes been doing on the nl side and try to work on other issues?
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Well, one person, many persons, that is the game we are playing, and that is not to say i dont miss even people like Randyo(who was not popular), or SYSOP Gimli (who was more popular), on IEN Drakkar was maybe not taken care off in such a personal way, but ppl while remaining strict retained sense of humor. Now it is all White House meet the press, very official.

And it was always like this, if you ask a question that does not have favorable answer, you are Wrong! And it is even beside the point of why would you even allow such a freedom as to ask question like that.

I hope that Drakkar goes on and Brad will continue adding content, be it new abilities or new graphics or replacing old graphics with new.

I always remember that no one is asking me to come here and play.

Thank you Brad for keeping Drakkar alive, no matter what you do i personally feel that it is why you do it (so it goes on) and this is why i feel i should sometimes log in and send you some money, even tho i get to play not too much. I still feel fondly about place Drakkar and Drakkar community had in my life since i got that AT&T CD in the mail.

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It is difficult to play right now coz Mountain Dwellers are shrinking in size and completely merging into loot piles when standing over them shape&color wise, but i keep telling myself that it is how thief class should be anyway, and forger about MT that play paladin or some other type'
New FE graphics are hard to play with in general and should be lightened up and improved.

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If i could Delete your Post i would longBeard..I dunno what u are sucking up to.? Oh well ... Darge Or Leif Whatever u want to be called by. Its Simple. Ever Since NL came out, Nothing else has pretty Much been worked on . The only Fun times i remeber is IEN, when Everyone Got along Very Well. Everything was Sweet .. Alot of Players Around the game to talk to , Now You Strugle to get 5 people in Steelflower. Drakkar Struggles To get 100 People online at 1 time. The Game Is getting to Out dated . Things have to be Changed . instead of NL being Fixed or new lairs , Because thats all brad is thinking about keeping the high end players there so he will receive the cash flow. But even i think that will go down the drain soon . The People that Have Done everything in Nameless are going to want more, And Brad will prolly try and accomplish that aswell. But Who knows. Was the newest FE Important ?.. Hasnt changed much .. Few Robes Look different, Only on yourself, dont see a change on others (yet .. im sure brad will fix that ) . Critters are different but that dosnt bring fun to the game.

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What's funny is...

You say you wish Brad would listen to the community for the community is shouting what they want to see.

In reality go back through what you have written in this thread and show me one thing you have said that you actually want to see.

Yes, you stated that you wanted to see fun brought back to the game.
What is it that would be fun for you to see?

You say you want quests for lower levels so they can gain gold and exp; in the new quest NPCs that were added; some of them do exactly that.

You say you want on-goin quests, you cite your example of bringing monster A to Quest NPC A then he sends you out to get another monster; in the new quest NPCs that were added there are some quests that require that; both in monster corpses as well as items.

You say that the quests are lame; what level are you?
You do have to keep in mind that they were designed for levels 25 and below; not Nameless hunters (that does not mean higher level characters cannot do them, but obciously they would not find them as challenging as a lower level might).

I see some posts (not just in this thread) of pure complaints; and cries of "the game is not fun anymore".
I see virtually zero posts telling Brad what they would like to see.

Brad does listen to you guys.
Brad does take player ideas and tried to implement them into the game.
When all that is written is: "the game is not fun any more, fix it!" That's very open ended.

Instead of going the oh-woe-is-me route, instead post some suggestions on what you would find fun in the game.

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Flisk, Do u wounder why so many people Complain, Have u relized The game is getting to Pathetic to even bother playing . Like i Stated Before, The quests are lame Simple. I Dont Hunt NL Much, I Need a Group to get anywhere There, It is Sorta Easy to get a group, but all the group will do is Hunt in a spot, run around Dragging Criters into 1 spot, let the ment do the work, and we just finish them off, Thats just naming 1 part of a hunting area. THINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED IN NORK,COB Whats good in Nork at level 20+ ? .. Whats good in Cob 30+ ... you have to sit in a nork hunting area for a while just to get to cob, then your stuck there for a while untill you get big to even attempt NL... You say I hunt NL like i know it off the back of my hand. I havnt even done Half the crap you can do in NL , But then again, because i wont waste my time sitting in a cob hunting spot just to gain a good enough level. Also You Said to Give brad Ideas, MANY PEOPLE GIVE HIM IDEAS , HE JUST WONT Script the IDEAS . How many Ideas have been posted here.. ALOT . How many have even been tried to be put into the game.
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moon i agree 100% with you

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could maybe make some more disc more classes also maybe u could mix a few more classes like the f/m and make some of the skill that are not used yet like streetwise, climbing etc. useable i dont no really what would make this game better i seem to use it to socialise mainly. i know u say brad is just 1 guy but cant he teach flisk, mars etc to programme also?

anyway i am not slagging off the game just wanted to share my views :-)
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Originally posted by Moon
If i could Delete your Post i would longBeard..I dunno what u are sucking up to.? Oh well Peace out.
Your defenition of "sucking up" and mine seem to differ, in fact to be somewhat VERY different.

Since i have no idea what you talking about at all gamewise,
i can say this: Go have fun with yourself,
If you don't have fun no game will give it to you

FYI Drakkar is like doubled in size on DZ hexwize, there are plenty of places to have fun at, about 2 times more then there used to be on IEN (guesstimate).

Sorry my post does not seem to add any fun to your posting experience, however i am not going to delete it because i feel as long as you have this thread going we have a chance to agree or disagree. I simply posted my observations without much of taking sides, you don't like that ether. So it is up to you to delete the thread if you like, and no i never felt desire to delete other's posts, only my own when they would sound like clutter too much.

Chill out, be cool

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Posted by Injection

could maybe make some more disc more classes also maybe u could mix a few more classes like the f/m
Hell no, he didnt even finish getting the f/m right yet ;)


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Moon, I'll try this again...


You have made 2 posts saying: "The game is not fun, the quests are lame".

I then made a post saying; instead of complaining give suggestions on what you would like to see done that would make it less lame and more fun for you.

Instead, you just rehashed your two previous posts into a third post.

You seem to think that all there is to do in the game is stand there in a party and kill things. There are MANY quests in that game that during the course of completion you gain gold, and exp, and items.

You say that ideas of the players do not get added to the game; Of all the new quests added recently; 75% of them came directly from players, and of that some came directly from the forums (others came from lobby chats, emails, and PMs).

The change of banks being able to hold more gold was a direct change of a suggestion from a player, I was in the lobby when this was being talked about; a week later it was changed in the game.

Many changes have come about in NL because of input from the players.

I don't see how you can say Brad does not listen to the players.
Of course he does.

Does that mean that every suggestion or idea is going to be used? No. There are balance issues he has to take into account (and yeah there are already unbalanced elements in the game; but I won't get into that in this post).

The bottom line, Brad does listen to player about the things they would like to see.


I'll say it again:

Instead of complaining and trying to convince yourself that what you say will fall upon deaf ears, be constructive and tell us what you would like to see added, changed, or expanded upon.

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I see some posts (not just in this thread) of pure complaints; and cries of "the game is not fun anymore".
I see virtually zero posts telling Brad what they would like to see.
Maybe you should go to the Nameless forum, and see the posts telling Brad what the players don't like, makes the game not fun anymore, and the things they would like to see changed?

The players have basically spoken on what they want to see done. The response was for the most part not what those posting liked to hear. Brad wants the game to go one direction, where the majority that posted don't agree with it. In the end it is Brads game, and he will do what he wants. Those who don't agree will have to deal with it, or quit/not come back.

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Not really sure why, but its a little funny that you post about nork and cob having been "so much fun on IEN." But, yet they have many more additions to them now then they had on IEN. Is it because on IEN 20/18 was considered decent size? and you don't have what it takes to go past that size? Have you been to all the lairs in cob? Am not sure on the size of your crit but I'd assume (yes thats bad of me) to say you haven't.

Instead of whining and complaining, do as Flisk said, post some ideas which you think would be fun.

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Moon, or digitor, whatever you want to be called, you make nl borderlands out to be alot more party oriented than they are. In fact, using correct gear, and *gasp* strategy just about every hunting ground can be done solo or with 1 other person, and the crit doesnt have to be lvl 55 to do so either. Surely you can find ONE person with which to hunt. Its good if your quitting now, because if you have issues with partying, or getting one together, it only becomes more important later in nl.

As to brad not listening to ideas, im going to strongly disagree with that. If i were brad, i wouldnt even give the Ideas section of these forums a moments attention considering some of the ideas that are posted (it must be a month of the year, oh look another "bring back ninjas" topic.) From what ive seen and experienced, Brad listens to ideas when you A: give something that needs to be changed/added B: support the potential change with a solid backing and good reasons. Furthermore, look back a few months in the posts, and you will see a post about norken shortswords, or the lack of goods ones for skilling, and now look, alt 2 has a norken ss quest. He does pay attention to some extent.
i know u say brad is just 1 guy but cant he teach flisk, mars etc to programme also?
Im fairly sure flisk does know how to program, hes currently working on aleria, or so we are told. *shrug* Look at the post where Brad is basically putting up a "help wanted" sign. It specifically says he doesn't have the time to teach someone to program. Sysops are customer service, not programmers waiting to be.

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Originally posted by Darge
As to brad not listening to ideas, im going to strongly disagree with that. If i were brad, i wouldnt even give the Ideas section of these forums a moments attention considering some of the ideas that are posted (it must be a month of the year, oh look another "bring back ninjas" topic.)
Haha,
you are so know-it-all,
Nothing is wrong with asking, giving idea or ninjas to be removed or added.

Ideas section is not for "Implementation" (things just don't work this way) it is for writing (because it is open forum) under topic "Ideas for KOD".
Now if 99% of ppl here would want ninjas back, and you would be only one disliking it would not you listen?

Brad is very likely listening, how much he is doing or will be doing remains to be seen. So far i noticed that forums are not active at all in comparison to what it can be, maybe ppl are no longer into writing, who knows.

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any1 like my ideas then?

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I didn't say it was wrong, just my opinion of the ideas section in general and some of the topics people post, which is not to say i don't have my own idiotic ideas. :)

But Brad does listen, when he changed f/m's divergent essence tier the other week he flat-out asked a player in dz what they thought should be done. If you really have ideas that you think would make drakkar better, it can't hurt to ask him in dz if he has time or just email him said ideas.
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Ah, I deleted what I had written. Kinda pointless to rehash stuff. Plus Flisk is just trying to help :)

I've replaced my post with this picture of a blocked kick! Football season is almost here!

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Ill say a few things, Flisk Give up. Pepma, I Understand where your comming From, But i have Honestly done everything in Cob unless there is a lair hiddin sum where that i have not found . Darge, It was said a while back NL is going to be a place for Groups, I can hunt there By myself in alot of different places without Anyone . To Gain anything worthwhile ill need a group of somesort . Frozboz ...Hahaha!!! .. Great post :p ..
Off to work, ill post somthing extremely long and boring when i get home .
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It's funny quite actually...

I get a PM from Digitor (I assume it's Moon) telling me to give up, then he gives me the newest post...

Give up?

Give up what?

You cry that the game is not fun and that Brad does not listen to suggestions; yet it's been shown that he has taken player suggestions and implimented them. The NL Folder has a Sticky Folder that Brad posts the fixes in; if you look at them you can certainly see where alot of player suggestions have been implemented. The first one that comes to mind is the IH seller in NL.

Then I ask you to simply tell us what you want to see that would make the game more fun for you and instead of doing so you tell me to give up.

That's like you drowning and me holding a stick out for you to grab a hold of; all you have to do is reach out and grab it. But you simply refuse to do that.

Again I ask, give up what? Give up trying to get you to understand that all you have to do is tell us what you want to see in the game? If that is what you wish, all-right.

The point of complaining is usually to have the issue resolved. I've made every attempt here to resolve it; but you refuse to clearly define what it is that you want resolved. Instead I just see; "make the quests less lame! make the game more fun! change things in nork and in cob!"

I'll flat out ask one more time:

What can be done to make the quests "less lame" ?

What can be done to make the game "more fun" ?

What needs to be changed in Nork and in Cobrahn?

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I'm not sure if Moon has played World of Warcraft (WoW), but I assume he has because his suggestions about quest seem to be a brief discription of how quest work in WoW. I understand that he would quest to be plentiful, have good item/gold rewards, and to have experience as a reward. Also, I personally believe quest should kind of lead you to new areas at the appropriate times (that way complete and anti-social newbs have a chance of doing well alone). Class specific quest at lower levels could be fun as well.

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Warning: Insults follow.

I'm amazed so many people apparently bothered to read Moon's posts. If you're still here in this thread, reading this, you're as sad or bored as I am, and I strongly suggest you either do something with your life, or get back in game. Threads like these are the #1 way to chase people away from the forums, "cause it's all crap anyway." I wouldn't be surprised if Brad was the first to leave.

Moon, I used to get along with you in the game. Unfortunately, your posts are poorly worded, devoid of anything that remotely resembles proper interpunction, and altogether just radiate ignorance and immaturity. Yes dear Sysops, this may sound cruel, but surely you have thought the very same thing while reading through this thread, I'm just the one saying it out loud. Moon, stick to just playing the game or not playing at all. This entire thread, including this post by yours truly, is just a waste of webspace.

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I Guess this is an Open Post Nemesis so i cant tell u to bugger off. Its All Crap i guess.. From u According. well instead of Putting a Negative FeedBack for a change, Thought i Would Change my Attiude towards some people, Ill Do as you Say "master" Flisk . 1. Change Somthing for the Lower Levels Like 1-10, For example, Make a quest for them to travel Around Nork. Example, They Get a quest from The School. Will tell them to Head Down the stairs to the east To find Steelflower, A person will await, Then he will lead u to a Trainer (maybe your Class) . The Trainer example " Will Say go To an Area to hunt, Maybe N-1? To get Skill 2 and level 2 Come back to me and ill reward u with a New skill OR somthing along those lines. Thats Just something i thought of. Something Else Might be a quest for Killing a Entire Level of a Dungeon. Or the items Nork People Like Eg. Mama,Reggie,Chipper, You Will get Some Reward for killing them ...NOT just the item u get off them. Basically Something to keep people Occuiped not just attacking monsters all day long. I can Say it gets boring, And others will agree.

I Play World Of Warcraft. And Im using Some of There "Ideas" Like Brad did to create NL . Youll see that. Infact got level 60. But atleast there is stuff to do in it.

Flisk I apoloigize to you. Ill Try to Put a more Postive Attuide Towards the posts and Yourself. As for Nemesis well you said it yourself You are sad and bored.. But Do u think telling people to do somthing with there lives is a good idea. ? . Are you a Doctor ? . I VERY MUCH DOUBT IT. So keep your Insults to yourself . Sometimes People wish they were as popular as you . And Ive Stated clearly, I Wont play any longer Untill things have been Changed. Open your Eyes Bucko.

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Your Elmo avatar disturbs me. Am I the only one?

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